Wednesday, March 18, 2009
When reading the journal you will see many typo's and sentence fractions. The journal is just as I wrote it on the day I wrote it and was never proof read or corrected for spelling errors. The journal itself is the original and in it's original form.
After Dorothy Chambers told me about leaving the children and I on May 22, 2006 I was torn between being relived from all her many problems (emotional and psychological) and struggles (financial) that I went through when she lived with us for those 17 years. But I was also feeling the lost of my self from her and that love which I at the time believed we had at one time. In short I was very glad to see her go but also very much at a lost to see her go. But I truly believe in the beginning we would just work out some type of visitation between the children and her and then go on from there. I guess because I thought that even something this simple was possible between us goes to show the reader just how much denial I myself lived in at this time of my life. I also didn’t know nor have any type of understanding about what a personality disorder was or that something like this even existed. If I for one minute thought that my life with Dorothy was dysfunctional and a emotional roller coaster before she left I am sorry to inform the readers that I was in for the biggest surprise of my life about what was just around the bend concerning Dorothy Chambers and us. So dear readers when reading this journal please keep in mind that this writer doesn’t have a clue what a sociopathic person is or that there are people out there that suffers from a personality disorder.
After Dorothy Chambers left us our lives became even more of a mental and emotional struggle then before. What both the children and I witness after Dorothy left was nothing less then a “mind fuck” which none of us could understand or comprehend. Dorothy’s strange and bizarre behavior became more bizarre and bewildering as the days unfolded before us. Dorothy Chambers changed into something no one knew or even knew existed at all.
Sociopaths are perfect chameleon and can morph into anyone they so choose too. Hooking their next victim just as easy as they hooked you. Because sociopaths view everything in black and white terms one day you are put on a pedestal and then the next day (hypothetically speaking) you are kick to the ground. One day you have value and worth the then the next day you are yesterday’s trash. This happens in each relationship with a sociopath and if you are in one expect it to happen to you as well sooner or later.
Because of all these many “quick” changes and constant demands placed on my children and myself in a very short time from Dorothy, I then started this journal to just keep times and events in order for myself. But soon my personal journal started helping me to deal with it better both emotionally and psychologically so that I kept writing it until there wasn’t any further need to do so. Because my children and I felt that NC (no contact) was best for us in the end. My journal soon ended after we began our commitment to total NC. I would also like to add that NC saved us from further emotional and psychological suffering at her hands and that we live by it and committed to it each and everyday of our life’s.
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Special note to self
Some time in April 2006 when I got my cell phone turn back on I started receiving strange calls from unknown people. Example, Some man called and said that Tracfone (the carrier I use) mess up his order and gave me his cell number (I know now that this would never happen, phone numbers are given when you activate your cell phone and then add minutes to you prepaid phone and after not using the cell for a long time.) he requested that any calls I received to give them his new cell number. I informed him I wouldn’t be able to do that, and hung up. On Mother’s day. Some women called my cell phone claiming to be my mother, calling me by a different name. I informed the women that I wasn’t her son and hung up. Dorothy was here and said “see you keep getting calls all the time” as too imply that it was my girlfriend or someone I knew. The Strange cell phone calls stop when Dorothy left me on 5/22/2006. So that I come to believe that Dorothy for some reason, gave her boyfriend (Paul Worman) my cell number. Why she would do this is totally unknown to me. I know I can’t prove this but the coincidence is to great to ignore. Dorothy Chambers is now trying to get me to give her my new home phone number. I talked with my son Joshua about this and he replied no way! I agree with Joshua’s decision. Giving Dorothy our phone number would not be in our best interest right now.
Joshua also said something very interesting. Joshua stated after his mother left that “she never put us first dad”. I later asked him what he meant by that statement and that I thought she only made me feel that way. Joshua said that when Dorothy would bring the children to her parents or her Brother’s or sisters home. That she ignored them. Never asking how they were (having fun, having a good time, etc) doing and ignore their request to leave and/or go home. I know this to be true, because when I went to her parent’s home, she would do the same thing to me.
Update: New home phones number was given on 6/15/06 to Dorothy Chambers with the agreement that said number is not to be given to anyone else.
5/14/06: Mother day weekend. Dorothy said she wanted to go to a hair event with her mother and her sister Marie. Called after 9:00 pm that day to see when she was coming home. Dorothy stated that she would spend the night there at her mother‘s home. Asked what time she would come home on Sunday. She started maybe around 4pm, told her that it’s was Mother day and wanted to spend some time as a family with her and the boys. She then said maybe she would come home early. But Dorothy didn’t return home Sunday until very late that night. Update: 6/17/06, believe that Dorothy went to visit boyfriend on this night and lied about were she stayed. Dorothy used her cell phone so I have no proof of this.
5/22/06: Dorothy Chambers told me that she was leaving the kids and I. I asked if she was seeing someone else and she said yes. Told her that if she was leaving us that she had to leave tonight. (8-9pm) Jesse ask her about the man she was leaving us for. Jesse wanted to know his name. She stated that his name was Paul Williams which turned out to be just another lie (we now know his real last name is Worman). She didn’t want to take Joshua or Jesse. I told her that she had to take Ryan (1 1/2 year old). She said she would. Dorothy stated that she would not leave until she called her mother letting her know she would be coming over. I told Dorothy to use her cell; she stated that she had no minutes left on her cell. Which later turn out to be a lie.
Update: Joshua (Son) later told me that Dorothy purchase minutes that day and saw her adding them to her phone which means that she lied to me about her not having any minutes on her cell phone.
I agree after sometime to let her call. If that was the person she called I do not know. She told me that she would be living at her parent’s home in Lombard IL. Which turned out also to be another lie. She packed some of her stuff. I later learned that she was moving things out of the house a little at a time as to not bring about my suspicions as to what she had planned.
[Update: a few weeks after she left I ask her how long she planned this? A few weeks or months. She stated a few months]
Dorothy informed the children and me that she would move to her parent’s home. She promised to call Jesse and Joshua later that night but never did. Dorothy also stated that she would return for the rest of her property.
5/26/06: Dorothy Chambers called me (630-268-1936) at home on Friday (2:15pm) before the children got home from school and again asked to get some of her property. I asked that if she would wait until next weekend. Having a very stressing week with her leaving and dealing with the children. I was also sick with the flu that was going around at the time. Dorothy stated that she could not do it next weekend. I asked her why but she would not explain the reasons. Dorothy screams at me and said “No I want my stuff!”.
Unknown to me her Mother (Donna Chambers) was on the line without my knowledge and started screaming and cussing at me. Threaten me by stating that she would have her boys come over and physically take Dorothy’s property by force. Demanding that I return Dorothy’s property ASAP! I return the verbal abuse. Donna Chambers then hung up on me. I have caller ID and called back that (630-268-1936) number and inform Donna that Dorothy would have her property tomorrow. I then had to rush about the home gather what property I could find. I told the children what happen and that we would have to go to my sisters (Judy Reddy) for the weekend so that I could return their mother’s property. They weren’t very happy about going. Joshua had plans to see his friends and Jesse wanted to spend time with his friend as well. I explained how her mother (Donna Chambers) threatens me [Donna stated that she would just have her sons come and get Dorothy’s property] and how she said she would bring the whole family if I didn‘t do as I was told. I explain to my children how someone had to watch them when I returned Dorothy’s property. My sister said that I could spend the weekend there. But Knowing Dorothy’s past experiences didn’t want Dorothy or any of her family members coming to her home in Sleepy Hollow. My sister (Judy Reddy) agreed and didn’t want Dorothy at her home as well knowing Dorothy past history. I explain that I would just drop her (Dorothy’s) property at the Spring Hill Mall. Watch it until she came and then leave. Judy agreed.
5/27/06: Dorothy called me on mother’s phone number (630-268-1936) around 10:am. I explained that I would drop off her property at the Spring Hill Mall by Officemate and ask her to go right on front of the Store Street. To take that to behind Walgreen's store. I asked her who would be coming with her and asked if she would not bring her mother. Dorothy said that her mother wasn’t home and would not be coming. Dorothy informed me that her and her sister (Marie) would be the only people coming. I ask about her cell phone and Dorothy informed me that Ryan threw her phone in the toilet and that it did not work anymore. I asked if her sister Marie had a cell and she said no. I then asked her if she wanted to talk with the boys (Joshua and Jesse) and she agreed but as I was walking back into the house Dorothy then changed her mind and said that she would just call the boys after she return back home to her parents house. I then asked again about the arrangements to make sure she knew were she was going. In our conversation, I believe she made a mistake and told me that there would be two cars coming. I ask why she thought she needed two cars and she stated that Marie would drive one with the children and Dorothy would be driving our van for her property. This statement raised a few red flags and I didn’t believe her. My sister (Judy Reddy) helped me unpack her mini-van and but that she had to return back home to give her daughter the van. Judy stated that she would pick me up later with her husband‘s van. She asked me if I would be all right knowing how Dorothy can be and her past history of unstable behavior and also about what I told her concerning my conversation with Dorothy’s mother the day before. I told my sister that I would be fine.
Time: Unknown: Received cell call from unknown number (815-953-0491-Marie?). Dorothy screams that she was unable to location property/me. Tried to explain again, but Dorothy would not listen. She asks me why I was doing this and that she was in front of Officemate. Look in that direction and saw our green Plymouth Van. Dorothy was holding Ryan. Scream in Dorothy direction to get her attention. Dorothy saw me and then pointed at me. Got a bad feeling and started to walk away. Heard a loud engine sound, like a truck/car moving at a very fast speed behind me. Turned around and saw a large gray truck heading straight at me. Started to Run. Then I heard two-truck door’s opening and closing and saw two men running in my direction from the truck. The two unknown white males then started running after me. I ran faster and headed for the first store I could find (Kinko's), the I ran inside of the store and started yelling for someone to call police. Both White males followed (running) me inside Kinko’s store. I turned around at look at one of the unknown male. He had long (update: person turned out to be Dorothy’s brother in law) gray hair. Walked up that white male with my hands up holding my cell phone as to not to be a threat in anyway. Unknown male then turned away from me and called me a pussy then both white males departed the store.
Both the store manager and I called the West Dundee police Department. Ed Lanman the store manager asked me to talk with operator on store phone. I explained to the 911 operator what just happened and that she inform me that she would dispatch a car to that location. Few minutes later. A West Dundee police officer walked into the store and I walked over to him. He asked for my name and other information. Asked me what happen. And then ask me to walk outside with him. I stay by the police car. He walked over to the other officer talking with Dorothy and the other two while male. Officer then asked me how I would get home. Explained that my sister would pick me up.
Officer offered to take me back to my sister’s house. I agreed. Later I called the West Dundee. Police department to ask for the police report number: 06-2105. *update 06-2105 is just a dispatch number. Ask officer what would happen. Officer stated nothing because he didn’t see the truck trying to hit me and nothing could be done. I asked the officer why the two unknown male was chasing me He stated “they saw you running and wanted to know why?”.
5/28/06: No call from children’s mother
5/29/06: No call from children’s mother
Monday, March 9, 2009
5/30/06: Dorothy Chambers called (608-592-1768) about 2:18pm (children were still at school) concerned again about more of her property. Asked that she call back around 7:00 pm. so that she can talk with her children. That the children wanted to tell her something. Dorothy did call back (608-592-1768 Wisconsin number) at 7:14pm. Children explain to Dorothy again that they wanted to stay with me and to stop playing games. After children talked with their mother (short conversation) I asked that she call back on Thursday (6/1/06) between 6:30 to 7:00 pm for her property list that I asked that she write one down.
6/1/06: No call from children’s mother.
6/2/06: Dorothy called (sometime in the afternoon from 608-592-1768 Wisconsin number) and asked about children> I inform her that both were at friends at this time. Asked that we should talk about her property and if she did write the list I requested. She confirmed that she did. We went over what items she wanted (see property file) and we agreed. Dorothy wanted to know why the cell was off for two days. I told her it was off until the specific time that we agree on (6/1/06 between 6:30-7:00 pm). She stated that I was trying to keep to children from talking with her. I stated that if I knew what time she would be calling I could inform the children so that they would be home to receive her call. Dorothy had no response to that statement. Again she asked about my new phone home number and I told her that the phone wasn’t connected yet. Dorothy inform me that she asked her Mother (Donna Chambers) to call my sister about why my cell was off for 2 days. I said nothing; I would wait and asked my sister about that later. Again she asked about my home phone number and I stated that I didn’t know why AT&T was taking so long to get connected. I didn’t want to give Dorothy my new number knowing about what has happened in the past when I gave Dorothy information. I asked her again if that was all concerning her property and she said “for now”. I said no, I wanted to finish this and be done with it. No response from her, again I asked but again no response did I receive from Dorothy, so I said bye and hung up the phone. I later called my sister concerning a message from Dorothy’s mother. Judy confirmed that indeed Donna did leave her a message on her answering machine. Judy later called me back and told me that she talked with Donna and asks to speak to Dorothy, Dorothy’s mother Donna Chambers stated that Dorothy wasn’t there (Dorothy’s mother lied to Judy) that Dorothy was out looking for a job. Both Judy and I knew Dorothy was calling me from an Wisconsin phone number and not her mother’s Illinois home phone number. Donna asked Judy if James got his phone turn on and about his new number and why my cell was off for 2 days. Donna said something about Judy calling back but Judy informs her that she would not be calling her back. Not sure if Donna Chambers knew at this time that we both knew where Dorothy was calling us from and where Dorothy was really at and that she wasn’t in fact living with her mother as Dorothy and Donna wanted us to believe. I also asked Judy if she at any time gave Donna Chambers her personal home phone number and Judy stated that she never did.
6/5/06: Dorothy called around 9:48 am, She asked me about her banking account and asked if I received (I later found out that her account is overdrawn) any mail from her bank. I informed her, That I have not received any of her mail and thought that she might have put in a change of address to the postmaster, She confirmed that she indeed had done so. When Dorothy called me, she still only had my cell number; I informed her I only had 10 units left (10 minutes left) and that we would be cut off when the units ran out. Dorothy asked about the children and I stated that they were still asleep. She asked if she could call back later to speak with them. I asked about what time? And She said around 3:pm. She asked again about my phone number. I told her that my phone was connected. She again requested to have the phone number (home) but I stated I would but only after the children and I needed to see her first (reason: to sign the custody agreements). I told her about calling the crisis center and was trying to get therapy for the children and I. Talk about meeting at the crisis center so that it might be a safer place for us to meet. Dorothy stated that she didn’t want to come to the Elgin Crisis Center. I then asked her about were she thought would be a safer place for us to meet. She didn’t give me an answer. I told her how important it was for us to get to together and then the units ran out. End Call.
*Unknown call around: 12:31pm
*Note to self, Van title is gone. (Found out later that the Van made it to Wisconsin but is now in very bad shape?) Dorothy also wanted to forge my signature and I said no, just mail it back and I would sign it over to her. I told her signing my name is forgery and if I found out I would prosecute.
Dorothy Called back at 3:pm on the hour as agreed. Dorothy asked to speak to the children. I asked Jesse and he said that he didn’t want to speak with her. Joshua talk with her for a short time but then he later gave me back the phone. She was upset that the children didn’t want to talk with her and she started to cry. Dorothy ask my why they didn’t want to talk. I told her that they needed time and I as well. Told her to call back on Friday (to try and get her to sign the custody paperwork, I explained it to the children and they agreed) so that I can give her the information as to were we might meet. Dorothy again talked about her property again. I told her I would return it when we got together on Saturday. Ask her if she wanted anything else she didn’t reply, so I then just hung up the phone!
6/9/06: Dorothy called back on Friday. I informed her that the therapist thought the children meeting her so soon after her leaving would not be a good ideal (this was a lie, I just needed more time on custody research and the children didn‘t want to see her) she then stated that I was lying (this time she was right, can’t be wrong all the time) and demanded the phone number for the therapist. I told her it was Aunt’s Martha’s Youth Service and gave her the number. Dorothy then demanded her property that day. I told her that wasn’t part of our agreement, that the reason I asked her to call back on Friday was give her the information as to were we would meet and return property on Saturday. I had prearranged with Judy that she would come to my home after work on Friday to pick what was here (some boxes were in Judy’s home and some it was here in Elgin) and then to spend the night at her place and then I would do all this on Saturday. Dorothy at the time didn’t know about my arrangements with Judy. Dorothy again stated that I “was changing things” and accused me of “lying“. And stated that I said she would get her property on Friday which I never did. (At this time she didn’t know that I knew she was living in Wisconsin). The phone number she was calling from was her (630-627-0765) sister’s Marie. Again I defended myself and told her that wasn’t true. I asked why she could not meet me on Saturday and she just stated that she couldn’t and gave no reason for her reasons. Dorothy said that she was coming over to my home and I then told her that not all of her property was here. I explained that some property of hers was here but that some of her property was at my sister’s. Not sure if Dorothy believed this and I stated that I would call the police if she came. Dorothy stated fine “I haven’t done anything”. I agreed, (sounds like Springhill Mall all over again) but that this would just cause more problem for the children and I. She said nothing. I again stated that it would be a stupid act on her part because only some of her property was here and the other property was at my sister‘s home. This call happened around 3:38pm, I then called Judy at work earlier confirming that she was still coming over after work and Judy said Yes, she would leave her job at 3:30. But Judy was late getting to my home and didn’t arrive until later 4:pm sometime. I told my sister that Dorothy demanded her property today and I told Dorothy I would call the West Dundee police later today and that’s were it would be. I stated that I would not be there when she retrieved her belonging. She wanted to know what time and I stated that I was not sure. She again pushed the issue and then I (was getting very upset and scared at this time) said to give me one hour. Again, Judy was very late getting to my home, but as soon as she arrived I told Dorothy called and demanded her property today. Packed Judy’s van and rush the children out of the house not know if Dorothy would indeed drive to my home or not. But when driving back to Judy’s home, I explain to her about my conversation with Dorothy. Judy didn’t know were the West Dundee police department was, so we agreed just to take it to the Sleepy Hollow police department. While still driving to Judy’s home I received a call on my cell from the 630-627-0765 number. Judy knew that I was very upset and scared so she stated that she would speak with Dorothy, I agreed. Judy talked with Dorothy and I could hear some of the conversation because Dorothy was talking so loud on my cell phone. Judy also started speaking loud to be able to get a work in. Judy stated that some of her property was now in her van and the rest at her house. Judy told Dorothy that she didn’t want Dorothy of any of her family at her residences and that her property would be at (reason to drop Dorothy property at police station, see 5/27, Spring Hill mall incident) the Sleepy Hollow Police department, because Judy was not sure were the West Dundee police department was located. Dorothy said she knew were the West Dundee Police department was and told her, but Judy replied that wasn’t the location. Judy then asked Dorothy why the big rush about getting her property today and what wrong with Saturday? Dorothy stated: “I live in Wisconsin now and can’t keep coming back to Illinois” (Judy later told me that she could hear voices in the background telling her not to tell her about Wisconsin). Judy replied back “you live in Wisconsin?”. Dorothy confirmed that. Judy asked Dorothy if she was coming alone, and Dorothy replied “Yes”, Judy then asked if she would be driving the (ours) green Plymouth van and Dorothy again stated “yes”. Both of these statements turn out to be lies because when Dorothy did arrive at the SHPD, her boyfriend (Paul Worman) was driving his vehicle and Dorothy didn’t come alone as she stated. Judy was getting upset with Dorothy and then just stated loudly (yelling) that her stuff would be at the Sleepy Hollow PD. And then Judy just discounted the cell call. Also, later I asked what Dorothy said to her. Judy later confirmed that she was upset about how the cell phone conversation with Dorothy went. I also notice that Judy was indeed physically shaken and upset due to this call. We then arrived at Judy house and we both packed up the rest of Dorothy’s property in her mini-van. I left children in Crystal’s care (Judy’s daughter) and drove to the SHPD. When we arrived at the SHPD. Judy asked if we could leave some property for pick up today but the operative told us she would have a Police office dispatched to us. When the officer arrived at the SHPD parking lot he stated that we can’t just leave the property here, that Judy would be fine for littering and that we would have to wait until the concerning party arrived.
After a long (it took longer then it should have) time, I asked that maybe we should call back the phone number on my cell (630-627-0765) to see if Dorothy left her sister’s home yet to come and get her stuff. I called and there was no answer. We assumed that she was on her way. Waited for some more and then Judy asked if I had any other phone numbers. I told her I still had the one from the Spring Hill Mall incident, So She (815-953-0491) called that one. No one answered, but some time later a man call back my cell number which I gave to my sister to answer and the person (man) stated that someone called him. My sister explain that we were trying to reach Marie (Dorothy’s sister). Don (later I learned who cell number this was) then allow Judy to speak with Marie. Judy asked if Dorothy was on her way and if she would be here soon? Marie was surprised and stated that Dorothy should be there soon and that Dorothy had indeed left some time ago.
Dorothy did finally arrive at the SHPD parking lot but both Judy and I knew that it had taken her longer then it should have. Dorothy was not along and not driving her vehicle. Boyfriend (Paul Worman) was driving his vehicle. (Green Blazer?) Judy and I started to upload Dorothy property. I was very upset that she lied to both Judy and myself (again) about the arrangements. I told Dorothy that this was all the property that she had in our home and not to call me again concerning this issue. Dorothy agreed by shaking her head. After Dorothy loaded her boyfriends’ vehicle, (boyfriend didn’t help). Paul Worman returns to his vehicle and I returned to Judy’s vehicle. Paul’s vehicle left first and Judy followed behind them to the exit point of the SHPD parking lot. We both saw that the vehicle’s license plate was indeed from that state of Wisconsin, but didn’t have time to write down the licene plate number. Thank God this day was over!!!!.
Friday, March 6, 2009
6/15/06: Around 1:pm. Got home from a job interview. Herb Parrish (lived in that same trailer park where we lived) told me the postal delivery driver left me a certified notice. I got upset, thinking that maybe this was a legal matter. I called Dorothy as soon as possible after trying to claim down. Paul Worman answered the call. I asked to speak with Dorothy. Boyfriend agreed and she received the call. I asked her what was in the letter and she replied (at this time I still don’t have that certified letter from the post office) that it was the children’s social numbers, birth certificates. Dorothy also stated that there would be a notice of her address in it. I told her I all ready had that information and didn’t need it. Dorothy stated that boyfriend was on another call and if she may call me back later. I agreed and gave her my home phone number. But at this time I also stated that she was to give this number to no one else! End of conversation. Dorothy did return call after about one hour. Dorothy first concern was how I got her number in Wisconsin! I stated that she gave it to me when she called my cell number. (Some numbers can’t be block when calling a cell, I check with my cell phone carrier to confirm that and the carrier stated that you would need a special type of cell to block calls) She then asked how I got her physical address, I replied, “That’s not important”. We spend about one hour on the phone about many issues, custody; calls made to this number (my home personal phone number) and other issues. I asked if boys wanted too, can they call back when they wake up. Dorothy stated that “why are you putting limitation on when the boys can call me. I replied that is not what I am saying, I am just asking if you want the boys to call you when they awake! She agreed. I told both boys about this conversation and told them if they wanted, to call her back. Jesse stated that he would call later, but never did and I didn’t push the issue. Joshua stated, no he didn’t wait to call her back.
The following is what I was able to learn from her and issues discussed. I on the other hand gave as little information as possible. Unless it pertain to the children’s warfare.
>Paul Worman is still going thru a divorce with his ex wife Bridgette. The divorce was not completed yet. (update on 7/23/06, Boyfriend file for divorce on 7/6/06) Dorothy didn’t state when this might happen, I didn’t ask for more information on this issue. I did replu “you living with a married man?”. (I know that we are not married, but it does show just how quickly both parties are rushing into this arrangement i.e. relationship). Why the rush? I asked if Dorothy spoke with her and she stated the boyfriends ex left the state and their child a boy with him. Note to self, what happened between boyfriend and ex to make a person do that? Or is this just more bullshit?
>Boy: age: unknown:
>Name unknown: update boy’s name is Paul
>Van (green Plymouth) was in bad shape. That it made it to Wisconsin after leaving the children and myself but after that it was having car (update: 07/07/06 engine has a crank cylinder head, but she is still driving van, Lie?) problems. I didn’t ask for details. Dorothy stated that she wanted to sign my name to the registration to sell/trade? . I told her no, which would be forgery.
And if I did find out I would take legal action against her. I asked her to just mail it to me and I would sign it and mail it back to her again. Dorothy didn’t agree or disagree to this.
>Dorothy stated that she was still not working, but looking for work. Question, with whom car?
>Dorothy (here we go again!!) requested more of her property again. I told her that I knew nothing more of any other property of hers. She gave me (see property file) a small list and I informed her I would look and then mail back anything I might have found. That “I am no longer willing to made arrangement to drop any more stuff off for her to pick up“. I asked if that was all and Dorothy said for now, I stated “no, give me your entire request!” “I want this over and done with!”. But that this time I wanted my time frame to do it and not her! At this time I was sick of all the lies and power plays on her part. She did not agree to this and said nothing.
>I asked her about the $60.00 I gave too her to pay a bill that was returned because the fee changed. She said if I gave back what was on the list. She would pay me back. Sounds like blackmail to me! I did not reply back to this statement. Only said that I would look and return back any property I found on the list.
>I demanded again that she was not too give my personal home phone number to anyone including Paul Worman, her family members, etc. She agreed to this. I stated that if she broke this agreement I would change the home phone number again and that she would never get the new personal home phone number. She again agreed to this arrangement. Update: she did break the agreement. Boyfriend did call me, so I change my phone number.
>Dorothy Chambers again asked how I received the information about her boyfriend and her new physical address. And again I told her that it was not important at this time. But she seems to be very concerned about this.
>I talked about getting counseling for the boys and she asked if I would be keeping her updated on this issue, I agreed.
>Asked if she had access to a personal computer? She stated that she did. She asked about her Yahoo email account and that her personal address book was deleted. I stated that I knew nothing about it.
>Note to self. When I called Dorothy after receiving the certified mail, I noticed the boyfriend was home. He answered the phone. Does he work nights or does he work at all? Or was he just home at that time?
>Dorothy asked about the utilities here (my home) and if I switch them over to my name and open new accounts. (All utilities were in her name, which is how she wanted it; this includes the past home phone numbers) I informed her that only the electric bill was switch over and that I would take care of the gas and water later, I didn’t give her a time frame and she didn’t ask. She did state that she did have boyfriend’s (Nicor?) gas turn on in her name. Note to self, why would (update: to have a physical address in Wisconsin, I think) she do this?, knowing that she still owns on her past account with the Nicor Gas Company here in Illinois? Questions, Questions...
>Dorothy stated something about getting (without having a job? guess boyfriend will be helping her out and/or using his car?) an reliable car and that a person in this area can’t get anywhere, in fact it takes about a 20 minute drive to get to the closer store.
>Dorothy stated that after boyfriend and her pick up the property from SHPD, they went to a hotel and spent the night there. Question to self, if they stayed in Illinois overnight, what would have been the problem to pick up her property on Saturday? God, how I hate this shit!
>Asked about her boyfriend. I saw how slow he moved in the SHPD’s parking lot. How careful he was not to hurt himself and how he didn’t help her load his vehicle. I asked what was (health wise) wrong with him. Dorothy compared him with her brothers (being blue collar workers which is hard labor) and that his body wasn’t in the greatest condition. Asked if boyfriend was on medication? (Pain killers). Dorothy replied no, he is not (lie?).
>Note to self, Not a tear in her eye when discussing the children and current issues (counseling, therapy, Jesse’s depression and them not wanting to talk with her, call her, etc) The only time she shown me any emotional stress was when she was talking about her stuff! I am not sure how I feel about this from her. Questions, Questions.
7/7/06: Dorothy called at 6:38am.
No calls from Dorothy until today at 6:38am in the morning and then again at 3:51pm (I ask for her to call back to talk with the boys). Dorothy call stating the reason for a early call was before she didn’t know what time I left for work. I was very upset with her for calling so early. (I did later apologized for yelling at her when she called back and she accepted my apologize. But also told her to never call that early again) She said something about food stamps and/or her account will be closed? I told her I didn’t know what she was talking about and asked that she explain it. Dorothy stated that I did know. She stated it was worth about seven hundred dollars? She stated that she was going to mail it to me. I assured her I didn’t know what she was talking about and told her I wanted to talk about the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity that I mailed weeks ago. That was what I was concerned about and that it was been about 2 to 3 weeks since I mailed it to Dorothy (I mail the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity forms on June 22 2006 via U.S. Postal Service Delivery Confirmation Receipt. See custody claim forms file) and wanted to know why she has not contacted me about it. We talked about this before and she agreed (just another lie I guess) to sign it and also stated that she had a copy of one. She then changed the subject about Wisconsin public aid and how it was very different then how the Illinois system works. That Wisconsin Public aid would come after me for child support. Dorothy stated that Ryan needed his shots and also for his medical needs. I told her I wanted child support as well. That when she stated that she would not give me custody and that’s why she didn’t sign the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity. Damn, I shouldn’t have brought up child support. Maybe that’s why she called so early. Knowing I would be half-asleep. Dorothy stated that she had a job making $8.00 per hour and working part-time (5 hours a day) and had to drive about 2 hours (1 or 2 hour one way, she didn’t specify) then I asked if she had another car, and she stated “no, I have to still drive the green Plymouth van“. I then ask who was watching Ryan and she stated that she had a babysitter that she had to pay $50.00 for but then changed that to $150.00 per week. God, I will never know what the truth is, will I?
I didn’t ask about more information on babysitter, wish I did!
Dorothy also stated that I was keeping the boys from talking to her (she later denied that when she called back at 3:51pm). I told her that was not true and that the boys wanted to speak with her. I then asked for a time that she would call back and told me 3:00 pm, I told her no, but to call back at 4:00 pm. She then went back to the thing (link card) she wanted to mail to me. I told her I didn’t care. She then stated that she would just cut it up. I told her to just mail the damn thing (now I am curiosity about what she is talking about, it seem important to her!) and told her I had to leave and wanted to end this conversation.
Dorothy called back at 3:51pm.
I told Dorothy that I wanted to discuss some issues after her spoke with the boys.
I gave Joshua the phone first:
Later, Joshua told me that he told her that he didn’t want to talk with her or see her and that I was not keeping them from talking (I asked the boys to tell her that because she would state that I was keeping the boys from talking with her which is a lie and was sick of this BS from her!) with her. I also asked Joshua to mention the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity, which he said he did. Joshua told her that he wanted my name on his birth certificate and to sign it. When Josh gave me the phone back, he was smiling/laughing, Later I asked Josh about it and he stated the Dorothy said that she loved him and he felt that was bullshit. He also said that Dorothy said she would sigh the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity. Update she never did, just another lie!
I then came the phone to Jesse:
Later, Jesse told me that he told Dorothy that it was a lie that I was keeping him from talking with her. Jesse stated to Dorothy that he didn’t want to talk or see her right now. This I heard because Jesse was in the living room and I was in the dinning room. I later asked what she said because I could see him shaking his head with a funny look on this face. Jesse told me that she said that Ryan missed him? Why would she try using a 1 1/2-year-old child to make him feel bad? I asked Jesse if he thought this was a lie and he said “yes”. Jesse also told me that after he told her he didn’t want to talk with her. Dorothy said that she wanted him to “visit us”. I guess Dorothy wasn’t listening to a thing Jesse had to say!. After Jesse had that funny expression on this face I asked him if he was done. Jesse nod yes and gave me back the phone. I told Dorothy not to push the issue after seeing Jesse’s facial expression, that maybe something she said to him was wrong that she might had said that to him to confused him. Note to self: I asked Jesse about this later and he told me that his mother stated “Ryan missed him”.
My turn with Dorothy on phone call:
*Note to self. Talked on the phone with Dorothy until 4:50pm
First I apologized for yelling when she called at 6:38am and she accepted my apologize. I requested that she stop saying that I was not allowing the children to speak with her. Hearing it from both the children and I. Dorothy then denied that she ever say that, I disagreed and inform her that (god, if I had a penny each time she lied, I wouldn’t have money issues) she just said it this morning when we spoke this morning, which she did, Dorothy again denied that she had said that. I then just dropped the issue. I asked her about the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity and what she would be about that. Dorothy stated that because I wanted child support she didn’t want to sign it. WTF! She told Joshua one thing and then me something completely different! I told her it wasn’t about child support and did she read the instruction on the back of the forms. Dorothy said she did and that it state that (custody) on the form. I told her that this wasn’t the reason I wanted it signed. I inform her that I wanted my name on Joshua’s birth certificate and what might happen if it wasn’t. (Reasons: If I died today Joshua would not be able to collect my Social Security death benefit.) The same might be true for Jesse. Also, That Joshua wants my name on it and what would happen when his future wife or children would ask why his father’s name wasn’t on his birth certificate? I stated to her that if you wanted a relationship with the children, this wouldn’t be a good way to start it. I said that she knew that I am the biologist father and why is she giving me a problem (she did agree before) and I informed her that by signing this Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity, that it would benefit the children and her, not me. It will only make me financially and legally responsible for the children’s warfare. She said nothing. I asked her about what she said this morning about getting Public aid for Ryan medical needs. I told Dorothy that I didn’t want Ryan to suffer for her mistakes and to go ahead and complete the application for Wisconsin Public aid and that it was my responsible as a parent to pay child support. I also, stated that I would work with the Public aid department in Wisconsin concerning this matter. I requested that she give me the boy’s medical records because school would be starting soon and I may need them. She stated that she would give me a copy, I disagreed with that and stated that she can keep a copy if she wanted but to give me the originals. She said something about going to the state health department and that they would have a record of them. I guess this is her ideal about working together on this! I later went back to this issue and stated how important these record were to the boys and I. She said that she would look for them but didn’t (strange, before she stated she would make a copy, now the story changes. God, lie after lie, I am so fucken sick of all these lies! Can this person tell the truth??) know were they might be at. Some of her property was in fact in Wisconsin, but some of her property was also in Illinois at her parent’s home. At this point, I was thinking, “I hope there is another way to get these medical records?”. I then asked about Kid-Care and when she told me about us applying for it. why my name was not on a form I found after she left. Dorothy stated that they only needed her name, not mine. After she said that, I stop talking for a few seconds, thinking (another lie?) what kind of bullshit is this? Dorothy, then yell “Hello, Hello!!” I told her I was just thinking about what you just stated about Kid-care. I dropped the subject after that. Again I was getting no place talking with her on these issues. I told Dorothy that maybe because of all these changes in her life so quickly, maybe she should seek out a therapist (psychotherapist) like the children and I. I informed Dorothy that the VA would let me talk with a therapist about my depression. She then asked about the boy treatment (therapist) I inform her that the agency has not call back yet. And that I was upset about it, but would keep trying to get help for them. Dorothy didn’t give me any feedback on this issue concerning the possibility of talking with an therapist for herself.
I felt that she just ignored it and dismissed it! And maybe it was just a game of mine. I was very seriously concern about Dorothy and her state of mind both emotionally and mentality . I suggested that if she wanted answers why the boy didn’t want to see or talk with her (I brought this up, not her. But I felt that she didn’t believe the boys or me. Or, she didn’t care. because after talking with them, she didn’t cry or ask questions. If my sons told me that they didn‘t want to talk with me, it would hurt me emotionally very much). That maybe she should try contacting her Son (Dorothy had not talk with her son since losing custody from her ex husband Joe Guth) Robert Guth. Dorothy stated that he has nothing to do with this. I disagreed with her stating that these issue(s) were both the same in the matter which were happening with us and herself. God, what is wrong with this women, is she stupid or just an idiot. Or worst, is something wrong with her mentally? Can she care for my youngest Ryan. God help me!!
Dorothy stated to me. That I was yelling at her, I disagreed and stated that I was just talking very definitely and seriously. I told Dorothy that because of her action in this matter and current events (trying to get me injury or killed at the Spring Hill mall incidence the lying, leaving the state of Illinois, moving in with a married man, God knows what else...) that her creditability was in question. (For some reason after saying this she started talking about what she owns to her credit account?) I was talking about her accountable with us. I then stated comparing her actions and mine. Example: She lie about going to her mother to live, lying to the children about her boyfriends last name (The night she left, Jesse asked her the name of her boyfriend, Dorothy told him it was Paul Williams, later turn out to be Paul Worman). That she also lie to my sister about when she was picking up her property at the Sleepy Hollow Police department, that she was driving herself in the Green Plymouth van. Later turn out to be the boyfriend’s car. There are so many untruthful statements from her that it is getting impossible to list.
I told her that I never cheated on her, never left her and the children and that I tried to never lie to her. I stated that my creditability was intact and that she needed to start taking responsibilities for her actions and the cause and affect of her decisions. Dorothy response was that “I didn’t call to talk about our relationship”. God, what relationship? After this, I heard loud banging and cabinet door closing loudly. I guess maybe her boyfriend came into room and was upset about something. The noises I heard was from an adult not a child. That what you get when living in a trailer, sound travel fast and you can hear a lot having lived in a very close surroundings/setting. We lived in an trailer ourselves for so many years, I know this to be true. Dorothy Chambers also stated the her Illinois Drivers License is up for renewal on her birthday and stated the cost of a replacement. Why she would tell me this is unknown to me.
I then recap the issues knowing that this phone conversation would be over soon due to her sound of voice and the banging I knew prior.
Will you sign the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity, she agreed. Update: (lie)
Will you send me the boy’s medical records, she agreed. Update: (Truth)
Will you complete the application for Ryan’s medical need with the state of Wisconsin public aid department, she agreed. Update: (unknown)
I then stated that our business was done and she agreed, I then say goodbye and (I don’t wait any more for any responses from her, due to the fact I never get a reply just dead air!) hung up the phone.
Note to self. Why is it that each time I say goodbye on the phone, she never acknowledge it and never ends the phone conversation with a goodbye, just silence from her? It’s like just to be civil toward me is beneath her but at the same time she wants that from me.
Received mailed letter from Dorothy Chambers on 07/10/06. Letter posted marked on 07/07/06 from post office Madison, Wisconsin. Letter contained a Link Card with Dorothy’s signature on back of card. The signature was faded neither because of physical time she had it in her possession or a attempted to remove it by a tool or chemical(s). Also, contain in the letter is a written (statement) note giving me information on the Link Card: A dollar amount ($700.00) and a pin number (1327). I researched the web for information on this “link card”. And find out that the Public aid department of Illinois uses it as funds for food items only issues it. Why Dorothy Chambers would mail me this card is unknown. No information on written statement (letter) was given. Dorothy didn’t sign letter/statement. But I will talk with her later if given the opportunity to do so. In my opinion, I believe that Dorothy Chambers wants me to use this card for food, but that could be possibly an unlawful practice and/or an action of fraud. Why Dorothy Chambers would want this is unknown to me at this time. I don’t know how long this card has been in her possession and have never see it before. Both Dorothy Chambers and I need to discuss this matter as soon as possible to clear up any possible misunderstanding. But given Dorothy Chamber's little or no creditability, Not sure if I can get the truth from her. Note to self: not sure what to do with link card, return to owner (Dorothy Chambers) or mail to address were it states if lost or stolen. Will ask her what she wants.
Monday, March 2, 2009
As I stated the letter Dorothy Chamber wrote to Joshua was throw away by me because of the way it made me feel. How did I feel. Confused anger and disappointed that she wouldn’t try to explain any of her actions or why she told them so many lies. The letter for me was just to surreal and left me feeling sick inside. But I did save the second letter (this promise she did keep) to my other son Jesse.
*Note to reader: I had typed the letter as it was written word for word. Also that "Ryan" is at the age of 1 and 1/2 years at the time the letter was written.
Letter from Mother to Jesse:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! (smiley face drawn)
I miss you a whole lot. I hope your summer is going ok.
I have been trying to call but no ever answers the phone. Im sending you some money to buy something you enjoy.
How are you doing? We are fine Ryan is into everything- he gets yelled at and alot of time outs, he goes to a babysitter when I go to work, he cried at first when I left but now he is okay with it, it is storming here today, It is really foggy everyday-because where we are is in a valley there are alot of hills (mountains) all around us. I want you and Josh to come out and visit a weekend if you would like that.
You can call me anytime you want to I start work at 730 in the morining and im back home about 230 300 p
Please call me, I miss you. I love you xxoo
love (smiley face drawn) mom
[her Wisconsin phone number]
Say hi to Josh,
Because the children would tell Dorothy Chambers over and over again on the phone that they didn’t wish to speak to her on the phone and never would come and visit. As stated in the journal we all decided that maybe a written letter from both boys would get the point across to her. My sons both told Dorothy Chambers many many times they didn’t wish to talk with her on the phone but she just refused to validate their wishes.
Joshua’s letter was type:
I have been meaning to write this letter so I can stop all this nonsense. first things first stop calling I don’t want to talk not now not never. Second this is the only letter I’m going to write so don’t write ever. cause I wont write back. got it. Third I don’t want to see you or visit you keep that in mind. forth don’t ever call my friends, they don’t need to get in tangled with this, also stop asking “how is your summer”, It sucks got it. not to say but I’m sick of the lies and the crap you keep saying, one other thing is me, Jesse and dad cant be more happy that you left so stop calling and writing letters it just get us all mad again about your stupid stuff so let us be, got it. this is all I got to say so leave us alone.
PS. leave us alone
Jesse letter was handwritten:
I do not want to visit, see, or talk with you. I do not want to live with you. You made me feel bad, when you left and lied to me, you said his name was Williams but it was Worman. Why did you lie to me? don’t call me any more, I don’t want to talk wit you. I want to live wit Josh and Dad. Why do you keep calling us? I love Ryan and hope he is doing fine I want this to end, stop calling me. Dont right back
p.s. My summer sucks how is your summer?
These two letters from my sons were the hardest letters I ever had to read. It still bring me emotional pain even to this day.....
Dorothy called around 1:53 pm. Children were asleep, knowing the nature of the call I didn’t answer the call. She later called again at 6:42pm. I told Josh that it was Dorothy and Josh stated that he didn’t want to talk with her. I didn’t answer the call. This was my son first birthday without his mother being present and felt that no good would come from talking with her myself at this time. Because I am unemployed at this time. For the first time in my child life I am unable to buy him a present. To make a long story short. I was not in the best of moods.
Joshua received a envelope with a birthday card, a GamePro magazine and a written note from Dorothy. I gave them to Joshua when he woke up. The birthday card contained money ($20.00). I asked Joshua if Jesse and I could read the letter, and Joshua agreed. Joshua was very happy about receiving the money. I asked Joshua about the card and Josh stated that he would keep it. I then asked about the letter and Joshua stated that he didn’t know what parts were true and what parts were a lie. I asked him what he wanted me to do with it and Joshua stated that he didn’t care. After reading the letter myself, it made me angry. The letter was so unreal. The letter asked Joshua if he was having a good summer! God his mother just walked out of his life a few months ago. What is she thinking? I understand why Josh said that he didn’t know what the truth was and what was a lie! The Letter from Dorothy was written like he was at camp or something. No were in this letter did she mention anything about (leaving, moving to Wisconsin, the reason she lied about living with her parents in Lombard. Nothing) current events. It also stated that she tried to call him on his birthday, but there was no answer. God, Again. The children just told her on 7/7/06 that they didn’t want to talk with her on the phone at this time. Why in God’s name would let her think that he would talk with her on a day like this. Is there something psychologically wrong with her?
Dorothy stated in this letter that Jesse would be receiving a card as well and that she would call him on his birthday. I asked Jesse if he would talk with her and Jesse stated that he didn’t want to. After Joshua told me he didn’t care what I did with his letter, I just shredded it. Later I wish that I didn’t. It might have been important to save it. It might have shown Dorothy’s state of mind. But as I stated, I couldn’t understand why she would not had tried to explain her actions and why she felt she needed to not just leave us but also to move to Wisconsin. Move into a trailer with a married man, why she told us all so many lies. The letter made me very upset! Like I said, the letter was so unreal. After this event, I informed the boys that I didn’t want to talk with her for the rest of this month. The boys agreed. I didn’t explain to the boys why I didn’t want to talk with her. I just told them I have enough for one month! God, please help me to deal with this women! I don’t know what to expect next. She is so unpredictable. There is no logic in her actions. I have no ideal of her emotionally state is or how she is treating Ryan. Like when the children told her they didn’t want to talk with her. She didn’t get upset. That would have brought me to my knees in tears. I have talked with many people about her actions and they all do the same thing, they just shake their heads in disbelief. So that I know that I am not the only one having a hard time understanding this mess! Dorothy knew that we were months behind in the rent here and that my temporary assignment would be ending soon at Kelly Temporary Services. But none of this matter to her! She walked away from her financier responsible as easy as her responsible as a parent from her two sons. I know that my relationship (God what relationship?) was over, but did she have to do it this way. And what about her relationship with Josh and Jesse? How does she hope to have one with all the lies and uncaring attitude that is coming from her? How does the boys feel about all this and God how I wish they would tell me! I tried many times to talk with them but I am getting no place. Jesse just tells me he doesn’t want to talk now and Joshua states that he is glad she is gone. I ask them each day how they are feeling and always the same reply-”fine”. I will keep trying to talk with the boys but god knows I need a third party’s help!
Dorothy called 3 times on July, 27th. Once at 12:59pm. Josh and myself were home at the time. Josh stated that he didn’t want to talk with Dorothy. And I stated that because Dorothy was not working with me. That I didn’t want to speak with her. Note to self: Because this was the 1st time I couldn’t buy my son a birthday present (no money, because I am unemployed at this time) I felt that it also be best not to speak with Dorothy.
Dorothy then called again at 3:29pm. No one was home.
Dorothy Then called the third time at 5:13pm. The boy were at their friends home and I was not home.
Jesse’s birthday. received call from the 608-592-1768 at 3:00pm. Asked Jesse before hand if he wanted to speak with his mother. Jesse stated that he did not. I didn’t answer the phone. Jesse came into the living room and asked me how many times the phone rang. I told him I didn’t know but it was around 10+. Then at 3:03pm received 2nd call from 608-592-1768. I told the children that was enough and unplugged the phone line from the phone outlet. Joshua then wanted to get online. I reconnected the phone line. After Joshua finished with the computer. I left the phone line attached.
Joshua later on in the day received a call from Warren (Joshua’s friend) and he told Joshua that he received a call from his mother (Warren stated that Dorothy called him at 3:15pm) asking Warren why their was no answer at the 847-531-5204 (home phone), Warren told her he didn’t know and to keep trying. Warren also later informed me that Dorothy said “I am driving around Elgin and no one was answering the phone at home and request to talk with Josh, this of course was a lie because all the phone calls beforehand were made from Wisconsin and in fact wasn't here in Elgin. Warren informed her that "Josh wasn’t with him” Joshua was very upset that his mother would call Warren and get him involved with this. I then told Joshua that I had to call his mother. To found out why she would call Warren.
Because Both Joshua and I were upset about the called to Warren I didn’t note the time that I called Dorothy Chambers.
The first call to Dorothy: Wisconsin phone number.
I asked why she called Warren and stated and Joshua was very upset with her to calling his friend. Dorothy stated the reason she called Warren’s cell phone number was because no one answer the home phone. I told Dorothy that, “no one answer the home phone was because the children didn’t wish to speak with her. I also stated that “I didn’t wish to speak with her at this time”. When I told Dorothy that Joshua was upset with her for calling Warren’s cell, she didn’t seem upset or concerned about that! I then asked her again what right she felt she had to contact Warren and then Dorothy stated “why do you have to be such a jerk”. I then stated that this phone call was over. Dorothy then hung up.
The Second call to Dorothy: Wisconsin phone number.
I decided to try one more time to talk with her. Concerning the issue about calling Warren and to explain why we didn’t answer the home phone when she called. Also, to ask her to stop harassing us with the repeated phone calls.
I stated to Dorothy that “this is not going to work like this and asked why she called so many time on 7/27/06. I told her that on 7/27/06 she called 3 times in one day. We confirmed the time and she agreed that she indeed called us at 12:59, 3:29 and 5:13pm. I asked her why she felt that she needed to call so many times and Dorothy stated “I wanted to know if Joshua received his birthday card”. Dorothy also stated that she didn’t know if I stole and/or didn’t his give his birthday card to him. I was very upset that she would make a comment of this nature. I then paused to regain my demeanor and Dorothy started to yell “HELLO!, HELLO!“, I told Dorothy that I didn’t like it when she did this and to stop. She didn’t reply and I stated to her that she just called me a thief. Dorothy replied that she didn’t. Because Joshua was in the living room at the time I put the phone on speaker and then asked Joshua to state if he received the card or not. Joshua reply was that “of course I did”. Dorothy then stated something about us recording her. Joshua told her that we don’t have a recorder in the home and said “what recorder?“. She then stated that we could be using the answering machine (answering machine broke weeks ago). I then informed Dorothy that we didn’t have a answering machine to record her. (Note to self: Dorothy had stated this issue many times about recording her! Why is she so concerned about us recording her? I am not at this time not recording any phone calls from her, should I? Is she in fact recording me or us? And if she is for what reason? Why is she playing these games? I am so weary of these games! Does she not know that by doing this, she in fact is just breaking down the lines of communication and in fact I feel that instead of working with us she is in fact working against us.)
I asked again why she feels the need to call us so many time. Dorothy stated that she wanted to talk with the children. Not knowing why she is not listening to them or validating them with their request not to talk or see her at this time. I told her to wait and then asked again if Joshua wanted to talk with his mother. Joshua stated “No”. I asked Dorothy if she heard that and she said “Yes”. I then asked the same question to Jesse. Jesse was sitting on his bed and was very trier so he just nodded No. I told Dorothy This. I then stated why I didn’t want to talk with Her. I stated “because you are not working with me”. Dorothy denied this and I stated that was a lie and why I did believe this. I inform her that even after her promise to both Joshua and I (See phone conversation on 07/0706) to sign the Illinois Voluntary Acknowledgment of Paternity, which she agreed. That in fact she has done nothing concerning this issue. Dorothy then stated that “I don’t have to talk with you anymore(me)”. I then said “you don’t want to talk with me”? Dorothy then stated “Yes”. I then said that was okay, it was fine and then I said goodbye and hung up the phone. (Note to self: I guess this is how she is working with me by not talking with me. Man, I feel like I am talking with a child and not a concerned parent for the best interest and wishes of her children! God help me, How do I work with this person? This would be the last time I spoke with Dorothy Marie Chambers even to this day)
I would like to state that all this happened on Jesse’s birthday. We all knew that nothing good would come by talking with her today. That by the children stating that they did not wish to speak with her, might just add fuel to the fire. And that by me talking with her, being that I was very depressed would not be in the best interests of the children. And that’s why we didn’t wish to speak with her. But felted that I had to call her because of the phone call to Warren. Telling Warren that she was driving around in Elgin and that no one was home and asked Warren if she to talk with Joshua. Warren knowing that she was lying reply by telling her to just keep trying. I felt that there was no reason to warrant her call to Warren and involving Joshua’s friend in these issues. Both the children and I agree that Dorothy actions, were deceiving and had no problem lying to Warren. I believe that Dorothy is just making this transition period harder for both the children and I. That as always, her needs and wishes are more important then the best wishes and the desirers of her children.
After this call from Dorothy the boy and I agreed that maybe a *letter to her would confirm that they (boys) didn’t want to talk, see her. The boys told her on the phone many time, but she just will not validate their wishes. The boys then agreed and wrote her a letter that weekend. I mailed them a few days later.
Dorothy’s boyfriend called (get date) threaten me not to have the boys “write those type of letters” and if I kept doing this he would give me problems! I say that he had no “right to call me” and “who does he think he is telling me how to raise my children and that he thought he had a right to dictate how my children wanted to communicate to their mother“. This made me very upset, and after this phone conversation with him. I called my sister to have her (Judy )communicate to Dorothy that the letter was how the children felt about what was happening in their life concerning her actions and decisions. Boyfriend refuse to let my sister speak with Dorothy, stating that she wasn’t home that was a lie because later in their conversation, Boyfriend asked Dorothy a question which was about a statement my sister made to him (did you try to sleep with Jim before you left) which she reply No. The boyfriend told my sister that both Dorothy and he didn’t believe that the boys wrote these letters! Judy stated that indeed the boy did write the letters. And to believe as he will. Judy stated to boyfriend that “don’t call my brother anymore, you have nothing to do with this. That this issue was between Dorothy and James, and that Jim didn’t wish to receive any more phone calls from him and that he was not to call (my sister) her as well.
After this incident I change my home phone number, believing that once again Dorothy broke her *promise to me. Also, as per her request to “I Do not have to talked with you anymore”. I have not try not to contact her. Believing that any attempts to work with Dorothy Chambers at best would be unsuccessful because of her inability or desirer not to work with me!
*Update: New home phones number was given on 6/15/06 to Dorothy Chambers with the agreement that said number is not to be given to anyone else. Which again she broke!
November 22nd 2006: It has been 6 months that Dorothy Chambers have be gone from the children life. I have not seen Ryan Phillips in those 6 months.